Posts by Pete Zahut

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CO retirement severance?

by road to nowhere in

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a friend says the wt gives a substantial sum to retiring cos. he says one bought land and built near him, a desirable rural area.

i think it must have been saved green handshake money or inherited.. btw this man also thinks the gb are the smartest men alive..

Back around 2004 there was an elderly C.O. and his wife in our Congregation. He left the work at 70 because of health problems and was assigned to our congregation. They had no Social Security so he took a job as a school bus driver and his wife got a job as a perfume "sniper" at the mall, spraying people and handing out perfume samples.

They drove an old Ford Fiesta (death trap) and lived in an older flimsily built Mobile Home in a not so nice mobile home park. I used to help them fix things because he had no skills in terms of household repairs because he had been in the Circuit work since he was young. Consequently, their place was falling apart. She had to plug the garbage disposal into an extension cord and plug it into an outlet in another room because the switch didn't work. Their dining room light hadn't worked for years and the carpet was threadbare.

I'm pretty handy in all of the trades and she called me over there because someone had given her some used carpet and she wanted me to install it for them. I looked at the carpet pieces and there wasn't enough to do the job and besides that is was in bad shape. She began sobbing because it seems that one of he husband's old Gilead school buddies from back in the day had called and wanted to visit but he was too ashamed of their home to let him come. This used carpet was her only hope of making their home better.

It broke my heart to see this sweet old lady so upset about her husbands embarrassment. I was able to get them some new carpet and install it and they were thrilled. I got all the electrical problems solved and spiffed the place up for them. He came home from work and was like a little kid who just got a new toy. He was so happy with the new carpet and to be able to switch on lights that hadn't worked in years. They viewd ME as being sent by Jehovah. Little did they know that in my mind, I was condemning their beloved organization for letting this happen to this old couple while they lived in grandeur in New York City.

That being said, unless things have changed for the better, these folks are turned out once they are of no value to the organization. Theres an imaginary brotherhood that exists and it makes you feel warm and fuzzy when things are going ok. Once any real tangible help is needed for any length of time, you're on your own.

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Caption this WT picture!

by Iamallcool in

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Pete Zahut

Hummmpf....thinks she can wear tight pants like that and get everlasting life too. At least they're not yoga pants.

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QUESTION of the DAY (a brain teaser)

by Terry in

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question of the dayeach man chosen of the twelve jesus selected had been called disciples, or "students" (meaning "one who learns").

(latin discipulus; greek μαθητής mathētḗs; hebrew לִמּוּד limmûdh;jesus is stated in the bible to have sent out the twelve using a new description: apostles, "whom he also named apostles" (luke 6:13), first before his death "to the lost sheep of israel" (matthew 10), and after his (resurrection to spread the message of the good news to all nations (matthew 28:16-28:20).with the above firmly in mind, the question arises: “why aren’t the governing body called apostles?”.

Pete Zahut

I think if you posed this question to them they'd tell you that individually they are Apostles of Christ (as are all JW's) but are also an individual member of the Governing Body. They believe that they are the "faithful and discrete slave" spoken of in the Bible and that they are Apostles of Jesus who were directed by him to form this group and oversee his belongings.

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Missed opportunity of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Abraham1 in

jesus had foretold that people of "last days" would “faint out of fear” because of things such as “sea-level rise’ as part of “signs of last days” in luke 21:25. bible translators—including new world translation of jehovah’s witnesses—missed the real meaning as they translated it as “roaring of the sea and its agitation.” (https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/nwt/books/luke/21/).

more careful translations such as niv put it: “roaring and tossing of the sea.” (https://biblehub.com/luke/21-25.htm) word for “tossing” is σάλου (salou), from saino; i.e., billow,” (swell outwards).

thus underlying thought is like balloon swelling, or water flowing outwards, as though ready to roll over, thus points to the modern terminology “sea-level rise.” biblos interlinear translation (int:) translates it as “of [the] sea and rolling surge.” “rolling sea.” (a greek lexicon to the new testament, edward robinson (d.d., page 416) (a greek lexicon to the new testament on the basis of dr. robinson ... by c. robson).. jesus’ original use of the wording “tossing of the sea” is another way of saying “sea-level would rise” as a result of pollution of air.

Pete Zahut

Jesus had foretold that people of "Last Days" would “faint out of fear” because of things such as “sea-level rise’ as part of “signs of Last Days” in Luke 21:25.

He (if he even existed) was talking about Jerusalem.

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. *** seems like a contradiction of verse 16 to me***

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; ****what signs have we seen in the sun, moon and stars?***

Seems to me, this another case of self appointed religious zealots taking scriptures out of context and applying them to modern days using imagined symbolism without any way of proving their claims, then implanting their ideas into scared small minded people who need to be told what to think and who are willing to believe anything so long as it makes them feel safer.

I graduated from high school in 1975 and I remember 2 years previously sitting in Biology class hearing the dire warnings of Jaques Cousteau and other noteworthy scientist who said that because of pollution, there would be no life left in the ocean by the year 2000. I remember being quite distressed by this but then thinking smugly to my fully indoctrinated JW self "there's no need to worry about the environment, this system of things will be gone long before the year 2000. I'm not even supposed to graduate from high school "

Here we are 46 years later and I did graduate, had a career, raised a family, have grandchildren, retired two years ago and the ocean still has life in it. Even so, we still have bible thumping "new-comers" who don't realize that all of the agonizing and falsely interpreting the Bible has been going on long before they were born and will be going on long afterward. I fell for it way back then because I didn't have the fullness of time to look back on and to make comparisons . I do now and that's one of the many good things about getting older.

When it comes to religion and the Bible, my advice to Abraham1 is not to take it all too seriously.

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XJW Curious channel

by Beth Sarim in

there was a live feed by pete just moments ago on his channel 'xjw curious'.

this was in relation to the governing body being petitioned in regards to the abuse scandals.. i don't know about the rest of you,,, but i sure enjoy pete's videos.

he talks in a very slow and deliberate tone.

Pete Zahut

P.S. I’m not him.

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XJW Curious channel

by Beth Sarim in

there was a live feed by pete just moments ago on his channel 'xjw curious'.

this was in relation to the governing body being petitioned in regards to the abuse scandals.. i don't know about the rest of you,,, but i sure enjoy pete's videos.

he talks in a very slow and deliberate tone.

Pete Zahut

Here's the link to the Youtube channel of "Pete" aka "XJW Curious" as mentioned above.

https://youtu.be/aZhplmSrRK8

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2021-November-18--Pioneers!

by Atlantis in

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2021-11-18--pioneers.

click the image to make it larger.. .

https://postimg.cc/4nydmk0j.

Pete Zahut

Please use good Judgement as you encourage those publishers to reach out for Regular Pioneer service.....
Those who do not think that they will have the circumstances to reach the annual hour requirement once the pandemic subsides should not be approved as new regular pioneers.

Just seeing the term "reach out" in print after all these years, still gives me the creeps.

As followers of Jesus who pride themselves on strictly adhering to his example, it's heartwarming to see that they use the biblical terms "publisher, pioneer and auxiliary pioneer" the way Jesus did and have a set hourly quota the way he had for his Disciples.

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Do any of you ex JW`s ever feel ashamed or embarrassed to admit you were once a JW? To your now friends / associates ?

by smiddy3 in

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i ask this now because i have been living in this town for the past 14 years and the circle of friends i have now i have never let on i am an ex jw.. i`m talking about 30-50 people at least.. not that the subject has ever really come up , but i think they would be shocked / amazed that i was a ( i hate this word ) a "devout" jw for 32 years going around knocking on peoples doors trying to convert them to the religion .. yet every now and again i get tempted to.. how say you ?.

Pete Zahut

Not necessarily embarrassed but don’t exactly broadcast it either. When I have mentioned it, most have a vague notion or no idea at all about who JWs are.

So much for all the years wasted spreading the good news and feeling like a “spectacle” and an “object of hatred.” It appears nobody even noticed .

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I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

by Revealed in

...why have you left the god and his son?.

Pete Zahut

why have you left the God and his son

I. Give up…you’re the expert with all the answers… you know you want to so go ahead…get it over with…tell us why.

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So let's discuss the framework of gods plan for a paradise earth

by nowwhat? in

so after jehovah kills 8 billion people "for not knowing him'" he is going to resurrect 100 billion humans because " they didn't know him" .

the 8 million jw's will be tasked with educating these ones.

that's 1 jw for every 12k resurrected ones.

Pete Zahut

They claim that survivors of Armageddon won’t reach perfection for 1000 years. What about Armageddon survivors who were terminally sick or elderly before Armageddon ? Will they die of old age or illness after Armageddon and be redirected later?